By Josefa Paganuzzi, Thompson & Bender for NYP Lawrence
Oct. 13, 2021: This year, flu vaccines and COVID-19 vaccines are both widely available, leading some people to wonder: Is it safe to get both shots? There is very good data to show that both vaccines are safe, and no reason to avoid getting them both around the same time.
Last year, the U.S. saw very little flu, due largely to the measures put in place to stop the spread of the coronavirus, including masking, distancing, and hand hygiene. But health authorities are concerned that the easing of COVID-19 restrictions and a lack of immunity from the flu last year could lead to a worse-than-usual flu season.
Early flu and early COVID-19 can look a lot alike, which can lead to people worrying if they have COVID-19 and may necessitate quarantining people and family members. It would be better to avoid it in the first place by having increased immunity against both the flu and COVID-19.
NewYork Presbyterian’s Health Matters gives you the latest information from our leading experts about the safety of getting both a flu shot and the COVID-19 vaccine, what to expect from this year’s flu season, and the best time to get the shots.
Are there any health risks to getting the flu vaccine at the same time as a COVID-19 vaccine?
No. When the COVID-19 vaccine first came out in December of 2020, the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) recommended against getting any other vaccine within two weeks before or after the COVID-19 vaccine. They were being extra careful to ensure that nothing interfered with the effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccine, but they rescinded that guidance because there wasn’t evidence to support it. We already give people multiple vaccines at the same time. Our bodies can handle all of the antigens in these vaccines without any trouble.
This year, you can get both the flu vaccine and COVID-19 vaccine. You may experience more side effects if you get both at the same time. And that’s why splitting them up, if you’re nervous about the side effects, is reasonable. It often takes a few days after the COVID-19 vaccine before the arm soreness and other mild reactions are gone, so you can plan to get your flu vaccine a couple of days after the COVID-19 shot if you don’t want to get them on the same day.
When is the best time to get the flu vaccine?
The ideal time to get the flu shot is somewhere in the range of late September to end of November. And the absolute ideal is probably between mid-October and mid-November. And that’s because in New York, flu season typically begins toward mid-to-late December. We know that the flu shot takes about two weeks for it to start working, so this way you’ll be well protected by the time flu season starts.
What about people who are immunocompromised or elderly and are eligible for a third COVID-19 shot? Should they have any safety concerns about getting both vaccines?
No, they should absolutely get them both. More than 6 billion COVID-19 vaccine doses have been administered worldwide and there haven’t been long-term side effects that we’ve seen. It’s a very effective and safe vaccine on its own or in combination with others.
Also, if you’re over 65, you can ask to get either the high-dose flu shot or the adjuvanted flu shot, which is going to be more effective for the people in that age group. If it’s not immediately available, go ahead and get the regular one so that you don’t miss getting your flu shot in time.
For children who may be due for other typical childhood vaccines, are there any risks of getting everything at once?
No, there aren’t. Your child may start getting somewhat additive side effects, meaning the likelihood of having a little bit of headache, muscle aches, low-grade fever for a day is going to go up a little bit. But getting them all at once gets them all out of the way, and they’ll be protected against all of those things as quickly as possible.
If your child isn’t eligible for the COVID-19 vaccine yet, get the flu vaccine because that’s going to provide a protection against at least the flu. And then when the COVID-19 vaccine becomes available for 5- to 11-year-olds, go and get that as soon as possible.
What can we expect for the upcoming flu season considering the low flu activity last year?
There is still going to be more masking, more social distancing, more hand hygiene, and more being careful this year than in most years, but schools are open, and lots of schools throughout the country have no particular mandates for kids in terms of vaccination, masks, and social distancing rules. And influenza, as an epidemic disease, is typically started by kids. So even if the adults may be being careful, this could be a big year for the flu because it’s going to be generated by kids who are going to come home and give it to their parents.
There’s also a second issue — because flu cases were unusually low last year, there’s not a lot of immunity to the circulating strains. Many authorities are worried that this year could be a bad year for the flu because there’s a lot less immunity in the population.
Any protection is better than none.
Before COVID-19, during flu season in January and February, sometimes half or more of the patients in some medical ICUs had influenza and pneumonia. Flu shots give you even more protection from bad complications of the flu.
To help the public reduce the risk of contracting the flu this season, NewYork-Presbyterian Lawrence Hospital and the Community Fund of Bronxville, Eastchester and Tuckahoe are offering free flu vaccines to adults 19 and older. NewYork-Presbyterian Lawrence Hospital nurses will administer the flu vaccinations, and no appointment is necessary. Participants must wear a face mask and be free of colds, cough, or fever.
Dates and Locations:
Friday, October 15, 2021
9AM – 2PM
Bronxville Court Room at Village Hall
200 Pondfield Road, Bronxville
Thursday, October 21, 2021
9AM – 2PM
Eastchester Public Library
11 Oakridge Place, Eastchester
Wednesday, November 3, 2021
10AM – 1PM
Tuckahoe Community Center
71 Columbus Avenue, Tuckahoe
For more information, call the Flu Shot Hotline at 914-787-6060.
The Bereavement Center of Westchester
670 White Plains Road
Scarsdale, New York 10707
(914) 787-6158
Sunrise Senior Living
500 North Columbus Avenue
Mount Vernon, New York 10552
914-667-5660
www.sunriseseniorliving.com
The Osborn
101 Theall Road
Rye, New York 10580
914-921-2200
The Maxwell Institute
The Maxwell Institute of St. Vincent's Westchester offers outpatient chemical dependency treatment and education services for adults, adolescents and their families. Treatment includes individual and group psychotherapy, couples counseling, and psychiatric evaluation and medication management when indicated. The Institute welcomes individuals and family members who are experiencing marital and/or work-related distress as a result of alcoholism and other forms of chemical dependency.
The Maxwell Institute also offers community education services through its programs in drug and alcohol prevention in the schools. For persons wishing to become credentialed alcoholism and substance abuse counselors (CASACS) in New York State, the "Maxtrain" program provides the 350 classroom education hours that are an important part of the credentialing requirements.
The Maxwell Institute is grateful for the support of The Community Fund of Bronxville-Eastchester-Tuckahoe.
92 Yonkers Ave
Tuckahoe, NY 10707
(914) 337-6033
Counseling Center
Founded in 1971, the mission of the Counseling Center “is to provide a wide range of psychotherapeutic and counseling services to individuals, couples and families by a staff of highly trained, experience and dedicated psychotherapists.
Director: Virgil Roberson
The Counseling Center
180 Pondfield Road Bronxville,
New York 10708
914-793-3388
10 Studio Arcade
Bronxville, New York 10708
914-337-1157
Bronxville Dental Care
Jenny A. Kanganis, D.D.S.
Guy N. Minoli, D.D.S.
Since 1994, Dr. Kanganis and Dr. Minoli of Bronxville Dental Care have been leaders in the dental community, providing exceptional dentistry to generations of Bronxville families. They have a long history of excellence and have earned a reputation built on trust, compassion, and dedication. Drs. Kanganis and Minoli believe in a conservative, holistic, and minimally invasive approach to dentistry. Bronxville Dental Care welcomes patients of all ages and offers a comprehensive range of services, including cosmetic and restorative dentistry, implants, and pediatric dentistry. Dr. Kanganis especially loves treating children. As a mother herself of two recent Bronxville High School grads, she understands the importance of helping children to feel comfortable during their visits, while earning their trust and teaching them to become active participants in their oral health.
20 Studio Arcade
Bronxville, New York 10708
(914) 337-6536
www.bronxvilledentalcare.com
Dr. Anthony Fiore
44 Pondfield Road
Bronxville, New York 10708
914-337-3863
Dr. Quentin M. Murphy
77 Pondfield Road
Bronxville, New York 10708
914-337-1004
Scarsdale Pediatric Dental
777 Post Rd.
Scarsdale, NY 10583-5000
Phone: 914. 472. 9090
http://www.scarsdalepediatricdental.com/
Dr. Michael J. Vitale
1 Pondfield Road
Bronxville, New York 10708
914-337-8430
Dr. Lesa Kelly
77 Quaker Ridge Road
New Rochelle, New York
914-637-2663
Dr. Neil Goldberg
77 Pondfield Road Ste 2
Bronxville, New York 10708
Dr. Mark Fox
ENT and Allergy Associates
1 Elm Street
Tuckahoe, New York 10707
Lawrence Home Care of Westchester
670 White Plains Road
Scarsdale, NY 10707
(914) 787-6158
www.lawrencehomecare.org
Jansen Hospice and Pallative Care
670 White Plains Road
Scarsdale, New York 10583
(914) 787-6158
NewYork-Presbyterian Westchester
NewYork-Presbyterian Westchester provides access to primary care physicians and specialists from ColumbiaDoctors, the faculty practice Columbia University Irving Medical Center and NewYork-Presbyterian Medical Group Westchester.
The hospital includes a cancer center, maternity center, breast health center, two cardiac catheterization labs, and a state-designated Stroke Center.
55 Palmer Avenue in Bronxville
914-787-1000 Main
Dr. Anne Galloway
77 Pondfield Road
Bronxville, New York 10708
914-337-4986
Dr. Kerrianne Page
14 Studio Arcade
914-779-9066
Dr. Raymond Chow
700 White Plains Road
Scarsdale, New York
Dr. Polly Kanganis
4 Studio Arcade, Bronxville, NY 10708
Bronxville, New York 10708
914-771-9441
Dr. Thomas J. Rubeo Jr. MD
Bronxville Women's Care, Pllc
One Pondfield Road, Suite 302
Bronxville, NY 10708
Dr. Patricia Halloran
55 Park Avenue
Bronxville, New York 10708
914-337-1239
Dr. Joseph Ciccio
1 Pondfield Road
Bronxville, New York 10708
Dr. Peter Rizzo
77 Pondfield Road
914-337-1118
Dr. Michael Elia
1 Stone Place
Bronxville, New York 10708
Westchester Health Pediatrics (formerly Children’s Medical Practice of Bronxville)
1 Elm Street
Tuckahoe, New York 10707
914-337-7474
Scarsdale Pediatric Associates
2 Overhill Road Suite 220
Scarsdale, New York 10580
914-725-0800
Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine
495 Central Avenue
Scarsdale, New York